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And then, I'm thinking of responding with a seahorse emoji... :)

So when other life exists in areas with humans, humans seek to exterminate it? Sad and cruel state of affairs.

Just don't make it open note then?

Cats don't care that much about rats.

"Temporal and Space-Use Changes by Rats in Response to Predation by Feral Cats in an Urban Ecosystem" - https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/ecology-and-evolution/a...


As far as I can tell (based on university and high school level instruction forums) institutions increasingly are not backing the teachers that want to let kids that have earned that F fail the students.

I've heard of places where the minimum points for an assignment is 50% even if you never turn it in which is insanity.


It’s not ‘of course false’, and, to be honest, I can only assume you have little idea what mathematicians actually do.

Most pure mathematicians are no more interested in ‘producing commodities’ than any other academic is. That’s not what the subject is about — at all. The confusion arises because mathematics turns out to be extremely useful (no surprise; it’s quite useful to have a detailed understanding of the basic principles of reality).

Again, this seems to be an alarmingly common fallacy here on HN. As a commenter above observed, pure mathematics (and that is what we’re talking about here) is in important ways closer to the humanities than it is to other sciences.


It shouldn’t have been vetted then. It’s again the fault of authorities who approved that.

A scientist who uses an LLM to write a paper remains responsible for its contents. And authorities that outsource police work remain responsible for what comes from that.


I had that a variation of that experience. This was mostly in the pre-AI days. Homework assignments were mandatory but only counted towards exam admission not the final grade. Much better for motivation.

I think this is the clearest example of: exceptions don't make the rules.

Author might be a vibe coder, designer or someone who does not do really heavy and complicated development, maybe some api here and there.

But it is pretty obvious that a very concerned engineer would not allow any of that, for critical systems.


Claude Code can insert something into your code you are not aware of, like a backdoor in many millions of lines of code, especially as many people now aren't even reading the code anymore. How is this not blatantly obvious?

Universities in many countries have traditionally been the place of political change and even revolution. Always the prime target of intelligence agencies.

From Palestinian flags to ultra conservative incels it's a hotbed of dissent even in tame countries.


sure. I just don't have a habit of background checking entertainers. to me if he was a genius fund manager would he be making youtube videos? no.

and i don't remember him claiming it in a video.


The sandboxing was incompetent, but the broader problem is that imperfect sandboxing is an inevitability. Doing useful things with agents requires hooking them up to the outside world, in one way or another.

> Now we know that.

Don’t know about you but it’s pretty obvious to me that you would need more than what OpenAI did. It was not remotely adequate to lock in even a human attacker.

You can find people who say all sorts on the internet, but this case is not much evidence against what you linked. "Zero-day" makes it sound novel, but the breakout patterns here are based on very common exploits and there’ll be plenty of examples in training data.


Today, such systems just work.[1] 25mph carts are now normal.

This is more of a construction management problem. Two vendors went bankrupt and coordination between the tunnel construction and baggage system was terrible. I've seen pictures of that project showing where concrete footings for conveyors didn't line up across a contractor boundary. This was not primarily a software problem.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0_4Xp_XkQ4


And then there are products that call themselves an "OS", but which they have nothing to do with computer operating systems...

Also just a tip - a picture, video or gif would go a lot further on your landing page than a wall of text. Show, don’t tell.

For a total of $1200 I'd expect a bit more.

2015. How have perspectives shifted since then?

I mean as i mentioned we have only snippets of info and as far as describing the sandbox[1] "OpenAI let its agents read the web and blocked them from writing to it, by allowing only GET requests. Four researchers have now traced how they got out anyway. They found 25-year-old wiki software that writes on GET, and a proxy that trusted a hostname nobody checked was real."

unless theres any report to the contrary , this seems to be what their security is like.As i mentioned either deliberately negligent or incompetent on their part.

[1] https://thenextweb.com/news/openai-agents-get-requests-usemo...


They didn't do it due to backlash but they have the capability and more importantly the culture to do so. It is correct that the government doesn't want anything to do with a company who'd act like that. By the way you're moving your argument, first you said "stop working" and when I proved you wrong then you talked about why it has any relevancy. You're the one who asked in the first place.

> I'm not sure what this means for AI startups if their innovations can be copied by OSS so quickly (what, like 2 weeks?).

My thoughts too. It sounds like a minor feature being framed as a whole new business.

Then again, Dropbox and Docker are too.


I haven't used plan mode for a long time. I do still plan, I usually ask claude to make a plan with me first an explain how it will work, then I iterate with it until I am satisfied and then just let it go. So far it has not started implementing on it's own before I told it to.

Somewhat off-topic:

I’ve often wondered if a hobby-class atomic clock can be built with “a less accurate gas” that is easy to excite and measure in a feedback loop simply because it’s available in a handy package that lends itself for experimentation without having to mess with melting glass and bottles of pressurised gas. E.g. neon, nitrogen or mercury vapour.


You should really edit your original comment, it’s misinformation as it is right now, not just a small mistake

What are the envisaged use cases here? Miro to drawio?

They believe they know, because they have LLMs to tell them, but they don’t often get to the point of being able to have a conversation about it

Lots of people also seem to want to deny something they don't like being ruled correctly.

Teaching and evaluation are of course not the same thing, but evaluation is an important part of teaching. There is a mismatch between students’ overall desire to learn things and the moment-to-moment experience that learning is hard.

Even devoid of all the economic and social pressures that grades impose students would compromise their learning experience. Ever regretted looking up the solution to a puzzle in a video game or sneaked a peak at the crossword puzzle solutions?

One of the hardest part of teaching is keeping students from self-sabotage. Evaluation helps with that.

Beyond that evaluation is of course also useful just as feedback.


I'm sorry Tom. They were clearly trying to get a rise out of me, but I shouldn't have bitten. I'll refrain from engaging in the future.

> HN is only a place where anyone wants to participate because others make the effort to keep the standards up

Point well taken.


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